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i just found something this today that was disturbing and in line with what is going on now that is also in line with prophecy, i will let you all draw your own conclusions, let us look at this with the lens of faith in Jesus Christ, the Word of God.

What's with this "pick-n-choose" stuff? Where'd you get that idea? I'm beginning to worry about some of you folks on here.

Yeah, there will be many who will say, "Lord, I went to church once in a while. I put some money in the bag (plate, dish, etc.) and I participated in prayers to You." That person is not born again. Come on folks! Read the Scripture. "All who call upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved." It doesn't say "may, might, perhaps," it says WILL be saved.

bill

Last Edited on Nov 4, 2009 7:53 PM

Brother Bill summed it up very well, i will simply add this.

i see people in 2 categories, the believers and the unbelivers

There are sub groups in these 2 categories but let us focus on the believers for now:

I believe that the Christians that are indwelt by the Holy Spirit and sealed by the Holy Spirit will be raptured and also because when the Restrainer is taken out of the way, those indwelt by the Spirit of God will have no choice but to follow the Spirit of God and the verse that speaks about the Restrainer taken out of the way can be found in 2 Thessalonians 2:7

So being indwelt, born of the Spirit, born from above(ANOTHEN in Greek) seems to be a requirement also in line with the Words of our Lord Jesus when He discussed with Nicodemus in John 3:3-7 where it is written:

Jhn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Jhn 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

Jhn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Jhn 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Jhn 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Romans 10:8-13 simplifies the process though...

So all the categories that you mentionned can be raptured, the only requirement i can see is that they are born from above and baptised in the Spirit of God and the sincere believer can ask the Lord to receive that baptism in a simple prayer. Simply put, their first allegiance must be to the Lord and to follow Him first instead of the religious associations, pastors are very important but their role is to feed us first and then to encourage us to grow in the Word and to follow Christ Himself so that we all share in the work of the field and do the Great Commission of Matthew 28:19-20

Jesus bless you and yours

In Christ Jesus

Serge