And please, refer to scripture only, do not repeat learned responses, or regard rumor as truth.
if you have legitimate proof in the King James Version, (also without having to interpret, poetic references or interpretations of sights, etc. [cannot alleviate confusion regarding how rude many have been with their hatred toward an employee of God.])
Anyway, if you know an alternative regarding his position(the Devil),
i would like to understand.
Thanks again.

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The thief is refering to the Devil..

Jesus Bless,
Chucky <*))><

Great one Chuck.

John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Mary

SATAN: Called Avaddon, angel of the bottomless pit, Apollyon, Rev. 9:11; accuser of our brethern, Rev. 12:10; adversary, I Peter 5:8; Beelzebub, Matt. 12:24 and Mark 3:22 and Luke 11:15; Belial, II Cor. 6:15; the devil, Matt. 4:1, Luke 4:2,6 and Rev. 20:2; enemy, Matt 13:39; evil spirit, I Samuel 16:14; father of lies, a liar, a murderer, John 8:44 [as above in Mary's post]; gates of hell, Matt 16:18; great red dragon, Rev. 12:3; lying spirit, I Kings 22:22; old serpant, Rev. 12:9.

I have a listing twice this long, but I won't post them, unless you want them, lucky. Satan is called the ruler of darkness of this world in Eph. 6:12. In Matt. 13:19,38 he is called the wicked one. In Matt. 4:3 he is called the tempter. In Eph. 2:2 he is called the spirit that worketh in the children of disobedience.

As Chucky posted, Satan will try to kill you, and if you don't know the Lord as Savior the ole devil can do with you as he wants. You find that in John, also. However, if you do know the Lord, Satan can't touch you without God's permission, just as was the case with Job.

Bill

lucky - "Now; another part of this mystery, is that I have not found text or verse that God himself has been displeased with the Devil."

The verse above that Mary provided is God speaking negative things about the Devil. Jesus is God.

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"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time" - Abraham Lincoln

Jesus is the son of David. bunch of references to this

God i hope that you're comfortable, unfortunately alleviating rumors is not easy.

1. Satan knows the Bible & quotes scripture to Jesus. Important to note because there are those today who profess to know the Bible and quote scripture...but they are really "wolves in sheep's clothing" who use the Bible to further an agenda that is not for the kingdom of God but for the devil & his minions.

2. Jesus responds with scripture. This is our example. We are to do the same, to be so familiar with the Bible that we can counter any attack by the enemy when he uses similar methods to trick us. And to be prepared for those attacks.

3. Satan attempts to get Jesus to question His identity. He says to Him repeatedly "IF You are the son of God..." And satan will try to do the same with us. When we do fall down he taunts us, even after we have confessed to the Lord & recieved forgiveness & cleansing. "IF you are a Christian how could you do such a thing..." Again, Jesus sets the example in what we need to say to the devil: "Away with you satan! For it is written 'you shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve'"(Matt. 4:10)

And we can claim vs. 11 as well: "The the devil left Him and, behold, angels came and ministerd to Him".

Let the angels minister to you when you have sent the devil packing with an arsenal of scripture. Just praise the name of Jesus, the devil won't hang around very long!!

Tyler

Many of the other translations--and I have them all--can sometime explain things better, but they also leave OUT way too much, also, as far as I'm concerned.

Many of the Scriptures I gave you illustrate God's displeasure with Satan. Also, Mary and Chuck's postings show His distaste for the devil's actions.

In The Lord,
Bill

Tyler

Quote from lucky:
I kinda looked at the Devils position as a sort of Law enforcement officer for the owner of the creation.
A Warden if you will.
But hating anything that belongs to the Creator of All things is definitely not wise.

Helloooooooooooooooooo!!!!
Who is doing the hating here?

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For a visual aid you may look up 9/11 and see the results of it's rudeness.

Bill, Mary, Laura, Vlad, Chuck, Daniel and Daniel, I agree with you all. Satan is a murderous liar who is against everything that God wants and hopes to somehow turn aside the eventual dire fate that is awaiting him. If he can get some of us to think that he's not such a bad guy, then he has managed a little victory, short as it will be.

Stay as far away from Satan as you can, Lucky. You are not as clever as him. In fact, unless you know Jesus as your Saviour and give your life to him (and I hope you do), all I can say is... good luck!!!

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Hannah123aka Audrey

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Don't bother me. I'm tired of talking to the godless. We can talk until we're blue in the face and they still will want to go to hell, and/or suffer the plagues of the Tribulation. But, they don't believe in that, either.

This is your "rude awakening", Lucky.

Tyler

Here's just a taste of the hatred they have toward the Jews, God's people:

"Jihadists today routinely refer to Jews as apes and pigs; this idea is rooted in Qur’an 2:63-66; 5:59-60; and 7:166. The first of these depicts Allah telling the Jews who “profaned the Sabbath”: “Be as apes despicable!” It goes on to say that these accursed ones serve “as a warning example for their time and for all times to come.” Traditionally in Islamic theology these passages have not been considered to apply to all Jews. Ibn Abbas says that “those who violated the sanctity of the Sabbath were turned into monkeys, then they perished without offspring.” Others, however, such as the early Islamic scholar Ibn Qutaiba, held today’s apes are the descendants of the Sabbath-breaking Jews.
This is widely used today as a metaphor for the Jews’ corruption, even unto bestial status. Muhammad himself began this when he addressed the Jews of the Qurayzah tribe, which he was about to massacre, as “you brothers of monkeys.” Today, the Grand Sheikh of Al-Azhar, Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi, called Jews “the enemies of Allah, descendants of apes and pigs.” The Saudi Sheikh Abd Al-Rahman Al-Sudayyis, imam of the principal mosque in Mecca, the Al-Haraam mosque, expanded on this, saying in a sermon that Jews are “the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the violators of pacts and agreements, the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs.” Another Saudi Sheikh, Ba’d bin Abdallah Al-Ajameh Al-Ghamidi, made the connection explicit: “The current behavior of the brothers of apes and pigs, their treachery, violation of agreements, and defiling of holy places… is connected with the deeds of their forefathers during the early period of Islam — which proves the great similarity between all the Jews living today and the Jews who lived at the dawn of Islam.” For more on this, see the excellent study by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI)."*

*(Taken from an article found inthe following website: http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/17/blogging-the-quran-sura-2-the-cow-verses-40-75/)

Laura is absolutely right!
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Hannah123aka Audrey

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FrankV

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I'm not anti-Jesus. but when the Devil was talking with him, about turning stones to bread, and leaping in faith that if he jumped off of the cliff that angels would come to carry him instead of him plunging to his death should he be the true son of God, an finally Jesus was offered all the kingdoms of the world; to be worshipped by them, and today many of this environments people worship Jesus, and still misunderstand his purpose,
so does it mean he held out and accepted the best offer?, or does it mean that people have compromised his denial by worshipping him?, knowing full well that the Devil used this very thing as a temptation? And now that this is clear that he is now considered and recognized as the King of Kings, will he honour the true Lord of Lords,(the true and one and only Creator of all life material and immaterial) or will a battle ensue, regarding ownership, especially of the life forms?
Not an arguement, because i know the bible says to be slow to wrath, right: Christians?

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http://www.khouse.org/6640/CD006-3/

31If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

32There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

33Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth.

You must try not to take anything out of context. Jesus is saying if he speaks for himself you would not listen, but there is another who you will listen to and the is John the Baptist.

Matthew 4

1Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

2And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.

3And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.

4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

5Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

6And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

7Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

10Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

11Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

The things Jesus was asked to do where not within the will of God.
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April

Did you know that if you are Palestinian and have a baby in or are born in any Arab country it/you will not be given citizenship? Arabs don't want the lower classes to breed among them.
Palestine was a country designated by the Ottoman Empire that is now called Jordan. Funny how their land got taken away by their own.
I'm sure you could live there. I'd help pay your ticket. One way, of course.:)
I believe there is even fireworks. You could say all these wonderful things to the leaders of said country and we could send your mail to the prison.

You are a Canadian citizen. Start acting like one.

I apologize to all that this creature lives in my country.

April

(Sigh...) Ok, Daniel Leakey, one more time...

Qur'an (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Qur'an (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."

Qur'an (2:207) - "And there is the type of man who gives his life to earn the pleasure of Allah..."

Qur'an (61:10-12) "O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty? That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement."

Qur'an (8:15-16) - "O ye who believe! when ye meet the Unbelievers in hostile array, never turn your backs to them. If any do turn his back to them on such a day - unless it be in a stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own)- he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed)!"

Daniel, THAT's where you'll find it, and many other places as well. But I know I'm wasting my time because you either don't read or don't understand.

And April, you are so right! We have only strengthened our faith in finding responses to Leakey. Thanks for that. Doc.

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Hannah123aka Audrey

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http://www.leestrobel.com/videoserver/video.php?clip=CCNT1460

Now folks, if these guys don't have the love of the Truth in them, or if they have a hard time with the Moral Absolutes of the Bible, why would we let them affect our JOY in the Lord?

Leakey is right, the Truth hurts and i think he hurts that he cannot change God's mind about sin, punishment and hell, wanting us all to change our minds and consider his folly to be the truth because every lost cow on earth is blindly heading towards the cliff.

Stop watching Oprah and Doctor Phil, Leakey, and stop drinking the cool aid of New Age religion and Indian philosophies and gurus. There is only One True Living God and you know it. You are in need of a Savior.

Serge

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There is a copy of the Quran right here in the library from where I post. I have read some of it. It's too ridiculous to read. Leakey calls the Bible a fairytale?! He should read the Quran. I laughed out loud in the library reading the stupid thing and nearly got chastised. It reads like the writer was on drugs (and he was).

And yeah, it does state that Islamics will get many women and go immediately to heaven if martryed. To die a martyr is at the top of their list.

If anyone thinks Islam is a loving religion they have only to look at the Middle East to see it's just the opposite. The Muslims in my community have openly stated they fear the Christians because we have guns. They (Muslims) have nothing to fear but themselves. The local Christian community has reached out to them, but they shy from us. They don't want the love of God. They have the hate of the Quran.

Every county--and history proves this out--that becomes Muslim is turned into termoil. Lebanon is a prime example. When Muslims were a minority the Christians, both Jew and Gentile, supported and backed them. After they gained control by numbers, they killed the very people who supported them.

I, too, have put Oprah on the "do-not-watch" list. And I gave up on Phil a long time ago. (He's a buddy of Oprah.)

Oprah always wants a "life-changing experience." I have one for her: come to Jesus Christ. Take Him as your Savior. Now THAT'S a life changing experience you'll never forget! In fact, it's an eternal experience.

Leakey is still a lost cause. He loves the world and all that's in it too much. Sadly, he will suffer the Tribulation and still curse God. I have given up on him.

Bill

How about following a Bible course with Chuck Missler, someone who truly teaches whaT WAS and knows what the CONTEXT was?

As the post Serge recently placed regarding Christ's second coming, the church is not long for this earth. I wonder what guys like Leakey, and those who go to church because "it's the thing to do" will be thinking and saying when the Rapture takes place.

When Israel destroys it's neighbor enemies and Damascus, then seems at peace, and the European Union gains more power and control, look up, our redemption drawth neigh. I believe this is why it's so difficult to get to guys like Leakey, and why Satan puts guys like him on here.

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To be so blind to the 100% accuracy of Bible prophecy past and development in the present day is rare, even in atheistic circles. This is satanic vehemence, pure and simple.

Oh, well, The Bible did predict this would happen in the end times ...

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Hannah123aka Audrey

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God did indeed command to kill these nations because they were practicing infanticide, they were sacrificing their children to demons(Kemosh and Molok, they were worshipping things that were made by the hands of men and calling them their gods, how would you feel if your child starts loving the tv set more than you, calling it Daddy and refusing to even look at you? Wouldn't you want to slap that child silly?

What you don't get is the presence of demons that had forced daughters of men to have sex with them and these women bore their aweful offsprings, that were evil constantly as described in Genesis 6:1-6, haven't you heard of the Nephilims? The fallen ones? the evil giants of those days?

God had a good reason to want them wiped out, they were corrupt 24/7 and He wanted to make room for His people called and chosen to be an example for all nations but hey, they were humans too so they failed but God never stopped loving mankind, evil was created by man and sometimes God intervenes like He did for the best of everyone.

Prove to me that Christ has not risen for if He has not risen, i would be believing in vain! Go ahead and try it! You won't be able to if you are really honest intellectually!

Best

Serge

Lucky was asking questions...good questions...remember he has not read the Bible through.
Help him, and quit playing around with Leakey.

Jesus Bless!
Chucky <*))><

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Serge

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You can't "reason" your way into the kingdom of heaven, Dr. Leakey. All this debate is fine as far as it goes but it doesn't go far enough. God is after your heart. Where the heart goes the mind will follow. You must humble yourself & get your mind out of the way & allow your heart to take over if you ever hope to have an inkling of what this is all about. Otherwise all this debate with you is pointless.

Tyler

The devil / lucifer was all about pride... > self
The trend continues in many still.

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It's all about Him !

First of all..I would like to know what you mean by saying..BEEN ALLOWED TO READ OF THE DEVIL..are you not allowed to read the Bible?
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Here is a verse that will tell you that the Devil Kills and Destroys....

Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly. (KJV)

The Devil here is represented by the THEIF...
Jesus Bless!
Chucky <*))><

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