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faith......what is it?

Dr Leakey
268 posts
Jun 17, 2009
11:24 PM
Faith will not stoop to reason when it has no good reasons to believe.If a little supportive evidence emerges,however,the faithful prove as attentive to data as the damned.This demonstrates that faith is nothing more than a willingness to await the evidence-be it the day of judgement or some other downpour of corroboration.It is the search for knowledge on the installment plan: believe now,live an untestable hypothesis until your dying day,and you will discover you were right.But,in any other sphere of life,a belief is a check that everyone insists upon cashing this side of the grave.
jonzy
661 posts
Jun 18, 2009
12:07 AM
dear neighbour, good-to-night too you and yours.___so it is belief in the power of Human "reason", that keeps us well with each and every breath that the supreme power of the Universe provides us with.___very interesting concept; and you thought this all by your self, or should i say by your human electron powered brain.____with love\peace/understanding....your neighbour daniel.
Rick
1098 posts
Jun 18, 2009
3:14 AM
Naturally another quote from Sam Harris..

Try quoting from the lips of Dr.Leakey if you can stand on your own two feet.


Hebrews 11:1 defines faith as “the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.”

God sends his spirit to dwell in his people as the Bible testifies.

With you...no spirit..so clue...hellooooooooooooo

Humble yourself before God and receive what your scared of before it's too late.

Mary
859 posts
Jun 18, 2009
10:09 AM
Proverbs 16:4 The LORD has made everything for it's purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble.

Proverbs 18:2 A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.

Proverbs 28:5 Evil men do not understand justice, but those who seek the LORD understand it completely.

Psalms 78:22 because they had not faith in God, and did not trust in His saving power.

Dr Leakey
270 posts
Jun 18, 2009
10:09 PM
Hey Rick....rather hypocritical of you to bash me for quoting a book when you can quote from your Bible every time you chime in. Again i ask you....do YOU not have your own thoughts on the subject,or do you have some sort of malady that inhibits you from intelligent discussion? If this is true then it is a good thing the bible exists as you would not be able to say anything.You cant formulate a rebuttal of what i wrote above,so you have to try to find something to say. I expect nothing less from you. Please leave the comments for people who are able to understand the point,and offer a reasonable explaination.
bill
575 posts
Jun 18, 2009
10:10 PM
Look, Dr., you have faith in science, books, your family (I hope). How difficult is it to have faith in the Creator God?

And one cannot attempt to make sense of a God who sends His only Son to become a human, therefore being born into sin, and then sacrificing Him for all of us, including you: those before Him, at the time of his death and resurrection, and for ever more. It's not logical. We can't attempt to accept God and His Son on a logic basis. Faith has to come into play. That's why Jesus said, "... blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed" (John 20:29, KJV).

Faith is believing in something or someone you can trust. God made us. Why not trust Him? The Stream all week have been in the Book of Job. Job had some friends much like you. Certainly his wife was: "Curse God and die," she said. (Nice wife, huh?}

God tested Job, like he does us, because He, God, had faith in Job. Job had faith in God. In the end Job came out the winner ... because when he was down to nothing faith was all he could lean on. His friends were more enemies. His wife ... well, she wasn't so strong when the money and worldly things were gone.

Some days, Dr., faith is all we have. I will die, if the Lord tarries, having all my faith in Him. Why? Because He loves me.

In the Lord,
Bill

jonzy
665 posts
Jun 18, 2009
10:58 PM
dear neighbours, good today to you and yours.____thank you mary and rick for the re-reads about what is true Faith._____this old man named Asaph, wow.-psalm 77 thru. 80 - it must be this recorded prayer tooo GOD, that Jesus was answering, as moved by his Fathers Holy Spirit of LOVE, when Christ talked tooo the peoples of his time about: "the true Vine and the true Vine Dresser"-recerded in- John 15.___those peoples, as moved by the Holy Spirit of Trueth, passed our Lord's 'words' on toooo US._____and yes, all re-read Our Lord's Word/Message-John 16 thru. 17 ; for this our FATHERS-DAY, that the secular world also celibrates, truely how important/real, LIFE with GOD/our Spiritual FATHER is/be !!!!!!!_____with love\peace/HOPE for humanity.....d a n i e l
Laura
516 posts
Jun 19, 2009
8:46 AM
"Hey Rick....rather hypocritical of you to bash me for quoting a book when you can quote from your Bible every time you chime in. Again i ask you....do YOU not have your own thoughts on the subject,or do you have some sort of malady that inhibits you from intelligent discussion? If this is true then it is a good thing the bible exists as you would not be able to say anything.You cant formulate a rebuttal of what i wrote above,so you have to try to find something to say. I expect nothing less from you. Please leave the comments for people who are able to understand the point,and offer a reasonable explanation."

dr. this is a Christian blog not a Sam Harris blog.
If you want reasonable humanist, then you are in the wrong place.

We would rather have five minutes of believing in Christ than an eternity of not believing......

We live in a world that bashes us on all sides and to be honest you couldn't handle it so be ashamed of what you are doing. Be very ashamed of Who you are reviling. They are the sons and daughters of God because they believe.
John 6:29 Your work is to believe.

Laura
518 posts
Jun 19, 2009
9:04 AM
Dr.
If you have any questions about passages in the Bible then bring them on. If not, then leave.
bill
578 posts
Jun 19, 2009
10:49 AM
My wife keeps telling me to wash my hands of Dr. Leakey but for some reason [?!] I just can't.

Four years before I took Christ as my Savior a man at work asked me a question: "Bill, do you REALLY know Christ as your Savior? Have you accepted Him as your Lord?"

I couldn't answer that because I KNEW the answer. It upset me because I didn't want to believe what he was saying. I believe it was more because someone finally called me on my "Sunday Christian" living.

A few others watered and fertilized the seedling that man planted in my heart. One night four years later after a day in the woods and my family at the mall, I turned on the tube and there was a Billy Graham crusade.

At the end, Graham stuck out that big, long finger of his right hand, squeezed his thick eyebrows together and ... it seemed like he pointed right at me ... and gave the call. "When are you going to stop playing games with God?" he asked. I went to my bedside (why I didn't do it there I'll never know) and gave my life to Christ. I've never been the same since.

When my family came home, there must have been a glow on my face. My ex wanted to know what happened to me. When I told he she cried with joy.

I have told this before, and about the man in an accident I observed whom I led to Christ and would have nothing to do with church. I and that man were like Leakey. At least the accident victim was. But we were both lost, regardless of our church standing.

My comment to my current wife on Leakey: "Perhaps the seed needs watering."

Her response: "Turn off the water, kick the sand from your sandals and forget him (Leakey)." I guess that's most people's opinion, but, again, where would we all be if someone hadn't stuck with us through the rudesness, the blindness, the ridicule, the mocking, the hypocrisy, the sinfulness?

If Leakey is just on here to mock, ridicule and be rude with no intention of listening to what we have to say, then perhaps he should go. He won't be the first, or the last, I assume.

There are sooooo many lost, sooooo many! "Jesus saith unto them, 'My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

'Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest'" (John 4:34,35, KJV).

His Harvester,
Bill

Joanne
763 posts
Jun 24, 2009
10:00 PM
Your quote is a perfect description of evolutionism.

Joanne


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